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Tips for taking the kids to Peru for 2 months?
November 18, 2010
9:46 am
Monica
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Hello Spanglish baby, I'm planning to take my kdis (8 and 6) to Lima, Peru during the summer break (June-July). I'd like to enroll them in school there so they can practice their Spanish while being fully immersed. Has anyone done that before? Any tips, or any particular school that you know of that will let me enroll them for only two months of the year?

Thanks!

 

Monica

November 18, 2010
3:40 pm
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Hi Monica!

How exciting!! Your kids are going to get so much out of this!!! (And I'm jealous!)

Check out this blog post recently on this very subject:

http://www.spanglishbaby.com/2…..0/09/9098/

Although it was about doing this in El Salvador, there are some great ideas you can read about!

I think it's good that you're starting to plan this already. Are you going to be staying with family? Getting the grapevine around the neighborhood working on this question might be the key.

It just occurred to me that you might try getting in touch with the local elementary school where you will be staying and ask them for help. Since Lima is a big city where people migrate to for jobs, they might actually be used to pointing newcomers in the right direction. I guess it couldn't hurt to ask!

¡Suerte! – and please let us know how it's going!

Beth O.

November 19, 2010
11:49 am
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Hola Monica,

How awesome that you'll be able to do this for your kids. It'll definitely be a great experience, especially because of the length of time you're going. 

You mention your children are elementary school-aged, which means that a regular daycare or preschool option is out of the question. How fluent are your children in Spanish? Have they been to Peru before? What is your goal in wanting to enroll them in school over there for two months?

While I'm Peruvian, I haven't lived there since I was a child, so I don't have a lot of answers off the bat, but I'll promise to get in touch with my friends and family to find out some options for you.

I will say there's a couple of things you should take into consideration. The majority of the people in Lima send their children to private schools, as the state of affairs in terms of public education is deplorable. I really don't think I know anybody who has gone or has sent their kids to a public school. The good thing is that there are tons of options for all the budgets in terms of private or parochial schools. Unfortunately, I really don't know what their rules are in terms of accepting children in the middle of the school year and only for a couple of months.

Another thing you have to keep in mind is that school children have the last two weeks of July off for winter vacation. 

Anyhow, I'll star asking around and I promise to share the results with you and anybody else who might be interested in doing something similar. Wink

November 19, 2010
2:20 pm
Monica
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Hi guys! Thanks for replying :)  Roxana, I'm preuvian too, and I went to school in Lima, so I know what you mean about public education… sadly…

I don't think I'm staying with family, I would rather have my own place, and I don't want to impose on them for such a long time, but I'm not ruling it out either.

I would love to hear from someone who has done it before. Like you, I don't know what the rules are about only having them in the school for 2 months (or really 6 weeks, I had forgotten that vacation starts in the middle of July! I was thinking they wouldn't be off until closer to the 28…)

Beth, we are VERY excited! And at the same time it seems like there's so much to find out!

Thanks in advance for anything you guys can find out for me, and I will definitely keep you updated on our little "Adventure" :)

 

Abrazos,

 

Monica

November 19, 2010
2:22 pm
Monica
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Beth, I fogot to add that I'm checking out your link right now :)

November 19, 2010
2:40 pm
Monica
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I just realized I didn't answer many of your questions… so here it goes…

My kids are elementary school age. Alex is almost 8, and Grace is 6. Right now they're in 2nd and 1st grade and doing great. They speak mostly in English, but understand Spanish pretty well, they just refuse to use it. My husband is American, so it has been very difficult to only speak Spanish to them… I normally flip flop between the two languages. I have started to teach them to read in Spanish though… so I know they grasp more of the language than they want to admit.

My goal in taking them to Lima and enrolling them in school is that they are immersed in Spanish, and that they're forced to communicate in it. We have been to Peru, Lima specifically, twice already, first in 2005 and again in 2008. They love being there because we're on vacation and because every one in the family spoils them! And they love the food! They are both pretty flexible, adaptable kids (more Alex than Grace) and they love adventures, so that's how I am describing it to them. It's our little Adventure! And they get to come back and go back to their old school, and their academic success over there doesn't really count towards their grades (this worried my second grader at first). It really helps that my husband is on board with the idea. He thinks it's very cool, even though he won't get to be with us for the full two months … he has to work :(

Thanks again for any input you guys may have! I'll keep you posted.

 

Monica

November 23, 2010
2:24 pm
Melissa
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Hola Monica,

Gosh, it seemed I was reading my own words when I read your first post.  We have been thinking about this for sometime now and Roxana knows too well, as I am very friendly with her sister Gloria…

What I have done in terms of finding out which schools would accept the girls is contact my family and friends in Lima and depending where you will be staying, of course, would mean finding the schools in that area as you know traffic in Lima is unbelievably bad!  I have found a school in La Molina as that is where we would be staying but it is very difficult to find furnished accomodation for rent in that area and luckily we do have lots of my husband's family who have rented their apartment out to us, in the past.

I have looked into schools such as Villa Caritas, Altair (both in La Molina), Markham and San Silvestre and the only one that said it would be fine was Villa Caritas and I do have a friend who has put her two daughters in the school during the US summer vacation and they loved it.  But your best bet is to do it through your contacts over there.

I am still toying with the idea of Peru, Chile or Spain but for sure, we will be taking advantage of the summer months of vacation to take our two girls to a Spanish speaking country and immerse them in the language.

 

November 23, 2010
5:57 pm
Chumei
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Hi Ladies, Currently, my two kids( 2 years old and 7 years old) and I are in Taiwan   around two months for the Chinese language immersion experience. We live in

the US and I am Taiwanese.  My 7-year-old gilr currently goes to a local school.  My mom simply went to visit an elementary teacher to see whether my girl can enroll at her school for around a month or so. The teacher went to ask the principal's permission, then it's done.  My girl also learns French, Italian and a bit of Spanish. In the future, I would also like to enroll my girl at a local school in France or Italy. NOw, I've been collecting info about how to do it. I am not sure my experience in Taiwan helps this subject/discussion or not. Deep down, it's pretty much the same, that is enrolling kids at an overseas  local school. Chumei P.S. I was told by my daughter's Chinese teacher, my daughter started to talk to her Taiwanese classmates exclusively in Chinese on the 3rd of school. I was quite happy about it. Back home in the US, I talk to my kids 85% in Chinese and 15% in English.

 

December 1, 2010
8:38 am
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Thanks Chumei!

It's great to hear how well your daughter adapted in the school and how receptive the school was for having her there.

I have a strong feeling a lot of schools around the world would be very open to this.

 

December 3, 2010
12:21 pm
Monica
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Hi guys! I think I've narrowed down the area where I'm going to stay, to Surco (a suburb of Lima), but I still don't have any solid leads on an furnished apartment for rent or the school. I have a few names, but I need to contact them and see what they say. Thanks for all the ideas and I'll keep you posted as I get more information :)

 

Monica

December 17, 2010
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As promised, I'm back to give you an update with some of my findings. 

The first thing that I need to make clear is that a lot of the private schools in Lima, including the ones Melissa mentions on her post above (San Silvestre, Markham, Villa Caritas and Altair) are bilingual schools. In other words, for many of them, including San Silvestre – where I (as well as my sister, my mom and her siblings) went to – the gist of the education occurs in English. Needles to say, this would defeat the purpose of exposing your children to Spanish. While it's true that some of the curriculum is in Spanish, the majority of the courses are taught in English – at least the way I understand it. If I'm wrong and someone knows otherwise, please feel free to correct me.

That said, there are many other private schools (remember that unfortunately we've had to rule out the idea of public schools) which, while they offer intensive English courses, the gist of the education takes place in Spanish. Such is the case with the school my 7-year-old niece goes to in Lima. The school is called Carmelitas, here's the website: http://www.carmelitas.edu.pe/ and it's a pretty well-known school which has been around for a very long time. (FYI: as many private schools in Lima, this is a catholic school). 

My cousin tells me the only course they have in English (besides language arts) is science. Everything else is in Spanish and the BEST part is that she says she doesn't think it'd be a problem for someone to just enroll their children for a couple of months because she knows of someone who did just that in November. 

Finally, my cousin's so awesome that she even included the monthly tuition: $360. I'm sure there's probably other fees that need to be paid, but at least this give you an idea.Laugh

On another note, I'll be traveling to Peru next year in either February or March and I promise to do as much research as possible – considering I'll be on vacation and so will the schools – and come back to share with you here.

December 18, 2010
11:28 pm
Melissa
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Hi Roxana,

Having read your response, I must say that you have obtained a lot of information from your family members in Peru, how wonderful,  I must admit that I no longer feel that sending the children to a bilingual school, as such, would defeat the object of immersing the children in the Spanish language.  Had you asked me a year ago, I would have agreed with you but seeing how my girls, 7 and 9 are using Spanish less and less each year, my fear of putting them in a Spanish only school may put them off entirely and the whole idea would back fire on me.  I think that if they are in a school that also offers English would allow them to feel comfortable and confident that they can participate easily in class, whereas in the Spanish only speaking classes, it would be the opposite (initially anyway) but at least that would give them a balance.  Also, all they would hear around them would be Spanish, they would only be able to communicate with friends, family, shopkeepers, etc. in Spanish and all of that would be completely beneficial.  In comparing what we offer them here, regardless of whether the school does give some classes in English, they would most definitely come back with better fluency of the language and want to go back the following year.

Having said that, I am still researching both bilingual and Spanish only schools.Laugh

December 21, 2010
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Hi Melissa!

I love your thoughtful approach. I think you are right to identify a possible back-fire from your girls if they feel overwhelmed. In my opinion a key factor is going to be: How much support for "being" in Spanish and hopefully having fun will they have from the other people outside of school hours? Will cousins who speak a little English try to practice their English with them, or stay in Spanish? Will they be involved in any other activities (dance classes, riding lessons, a painting class?) Can they participate in any holidays in Peru during the time they're there? 

As an example, I think being part of Las Posadas rituals every evening was HUGE for my stepkids even though we were only in Mexico a week. If left to their own choices they did not even want to go, they felt a little shy and wanted to stay home with whoever was there watching tv. This didn't seem to me like it would have the same effect of making them feel like they were part of what was happening in that place. I insisted they go along for Las Posadas every evening. They were 6 and 8 years old then. They complained the whole time they were tired of walking, it was boring, they were thirsty, etc. etc. etc. Afterwards, now when they talk about that week, Las Posadas is mostly what they talk about. It took a little while for them to see the attraction, but then, they loved it!!!

 

 

 

January 11, 2011
2:32 pm
Monica
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Hi guys! I'm back with more info too :)

Roxana, first of all a huge thanks to you! It's great to know that Carmelitas will take them for a couple of months. Was the monthly tuition in US dollars or soles?.

Melissa, what you mentioned in your post is something I have been thinking of too, but since my kids are still young and tend to make friends quickly, I have decided for the "sink or swim" approach. I think that if they were able to learn in English while there, they would tend to not try to speak in Spanish at all. I think it will be a little rough in the beginning, but they still have each other to talk to so they won't feel too frustrated.

My son is actually looking forward to it, my daughter is aprehensive since she tends to depend on her older brother to translate when she doesn't understand something. Her main concern (or so she says) is that we won't be here to celebrate the 4th of July. I have told them that we will be celebrating the 28th of July (Peruvian Independe Day), but I will also try to have a small celebration on the 4th, even if it's just the 3 of us eating smores and lighting fireworks :)

I'm trying to find a school where most of the classes are taught in Spanish, but I'm also looking into the general size of the school. If I can find something that has less classes per grade and/or less students per class, that would be optimal for me, as I think my kids would feel more comfortable in a smaller environment. I have my family doing research for me (isn't family great!), and I will let you guys know what we school we choose when we make a final decision.

I have found a furnished apartment to rent in Surco, I'm still finalizing the details (like the internet connection so I can work!). So the plan is coming along, slowly but surely.

Thanks again to everyone for their opinions and information.

I will keep you guys posted :)

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